Family trees

The trees below are necessarily devoid of every single family member, which would take complete rolls of wallpaper to reproduce. I have only included individuals and families that I have written about. If anyone should wish to have further, more detailed trees please comment below and I will do my best to help.

The family of my maternal grandfather: Reginald Frank RIDOUT….

The family of my maternal grandmother: Elsie May BEATON….

The descendants of Thomas ORCHARD of Widcombe. My ARCHARD family and the peruke makers of Abbey Green descend from Thomas ORCHARD and Elizabeth BRIGHT. The non-conformist ORCHARDS descend from Thomas ORCHARD’s brother Joseph and his wife Ann, who lived in Monkton Combe near Bath….

Martha SOMERTON (my x3 great-grandmother)’s Bristol family, proprietors and publishers of the Bristol Mercury over four generations….

The Nethercombe line


William Ridowte and Agnetha Barnardย 


25 Responses to Family trees

  1. sue ketchell says:

    Amazing ! I found your wonderful family history while researching my own. Edwin Ridout(1833) is the father-in -law of my great aunt, Eliza Louisa Jefferies.

    • Prevaricat says:

      Gosh Susan! Thanks for dropping by… So, Edwin was my great great grandfather. That means we are sort of related by marriage a bit ๐Ÿ™‚
      Glad you like the blog, thank you. Let’s correspond off this site. I will write to you privately in a jiffy.


  2. Liz says:

    Hi, just found your site – what a lot of information! My ggggg grandparents were Abraham Orchard (1753-93) and Martha Bishop (1757-95). I have copies of family papers for them (athough who knows where the originals went that we used to have!).

    • Prevaricat says:

      Hi Liz

      Thanks for your message – I guess you might find out quite a bit about your family here, including some things you didn’t know hopefully ๐Ÿ™‚ I spent quite a lot of time researching my ARCHARD family and they quickly turned into ORCHARDS before I was too far back in time.

      Abraham and Isaac were the most interesting men I think; they lived in a world where was so much was happening and they seemed to have been in the thick of it. I enjoyed finding out and writing about them but my own family were a rather more modest bunch, as is always the way. It is a shame that you don’t have your original family papers any more; I guess that’s often true – I don’t either.

      Cheers, Karen

      • Dear (Prevaricat) Karen:

        As a relative from across the pond I found you wonderful post and am overjoyed! Your work together with that of Arthur George pvovides the documentation I have searched for years to find. The detail provided is more than I ever hoped to find.

        The difficulty mentioned regarding the loss of documents due to the WW II air raids echos across time as many records here were lost to the American Civil War 1861-1865. The brunt of the Civil War occured where Giles (the sailor) relocated as well as the next four generations in the Virginia counties of Dinwiddie, Brunswick, Sussex and Petersburg.

        I am writing in hopes you have the time to correspond. Admittedly, I am having dificulty not only with five Giles but also trying to construct a direct lineage. Have you seen or located a family tree for the Ridout family prior to the 1699 Giles?

        with regards, I remain
        Charles Stuart Ridout
        12516 Petersburg Street
        Chester, Virginia 23831

      • Prevaricat says:

        Hi Charles

        Thank you for your lovely comment; I’m glad that you found oje of my posts useful to you ๐Ÿ™‚ I’ll have a root around all my paperwork and see if I can help you… I will gladly correspond with you and will do so via email; it’s close to the Christmas holiday, of course, so it may be a few days!

        Kind Regards

  3. Edith Christie says:

    i so wish i could find a small trace from my mother’s side. Unfortunately she died on the 22nd september. She always wanted to find her family.
    Her father was Alfred lester Ridout born circa 1905
    His father Francis, His mother Edith Eva Parker

    • Prevaricat says:

      Hi Edith… thanks for dropping by ๐Ÿ™‚ I have often ‘seen’ your family in Bath records when I was looking for my own, although we are not related – my lot came originally from Sherborne and yours appear to be from Alford in Somerset. Francis’s father was Charles and his mother Mary Ann PAYNE, who married in 1874 in Bath and had many children. Charles was a carter. Tell me what you want to know and I will do my best to help you. Regards, Karen

  4. Alan House says:

    Karen – using an unsourced tree on Ancestry (yes I know I shouldn’t do this!) it appears that my RIDOUTs and yours could be connected at Thomas (b 1574, m Edith PALMER, by the looks of it his second wife – you are descended from his first, Edith OLDISH). My male RIDOUT line, which is very largely from Okeford Fitzpaine, stops at John (1848-1927, m Jemima ROSE), I descend from their daughter Temperance. Pity, as it would be interesting to join the yDNA project. I’m in the process of “mending” my website so if you look you may not get to the data.

  5. Prevaricat says:

    Hi Alan… I agree about Ancestry trees! Because I have researched this family for over a decade now, I have sort of ‘gut feelings’ about how likely some relationships are. Whilst I do believe that perhaps the majority of Dorset Ridouts are somehow related I also know that many of the trees on that site are wildly inaccurate. I found one example where there were 19 identical trees in which the second generation had a son born when the father was just two years old ๐Ÿ™‚

    Anyway… not wishing at all to throw cold water on your hopes, you say that your family may descend from Thomas and Edith Palmer (who certainly had a load of children!). Can you tell me from which son? I will look at my notes and see if I can help you. It is a shame, I agree, that you have no male Ridouts; a yDNA test would have been very helpful in indicating if you were on the right path.

    Thanks for dropping by; I’d love to hear from you again. We may be able to work out your OF ancestry?

    Cheer, Karen

  6. Clint Horsey says:

    hi,i believe an Elizabeth Ridout was my 4th Gt Grandmother,was married to Henry Horsey in 1802 at Bath St James,is there a connection?..

    • Prevaricat says:

      Hi Clint… thanks for dropping by! As to your question, I can’t answer it off the top of my head but, as you probably know, both RIDOUT and HORSEY are good Dorset names. If you tell me more about Elizabeth I will see If I can find out more in my records e.g. her date and place of birth would be a start ๐Ÿ™‚ Cheers, Karen

  7. Ken Butler says:

    Hi Karen,
    Hope you are keeping well. I’ve just started looking into my family history since my mothers passing last year, and tonight I came across you’re web-page. Really interesting! FYI my mothers, father was Clarence Harold Ridout, his father was, Frank Percy Ridout, and his father was Edwin Ridout B: 17.07.1833.
    I’m part of the Butler line as my mother married William Edward Butler B: 04th May 1923. Most of my senior generation has now passed.

    Best Regards

    • Prevaricat says:

      Hi Ken… your mother, then, was Margaret Phyllis Ridout? I have been in touch previously with other of your relations who you probably know and through them and my own research I know a fair amount about Clarence Harold, including physical description, military record, occupation, photographs etc. As you probably realise from the trees, our common ancestor is Edwin RIDOUT, my x2 great grandfather; I have photos of him and his wife as well, if you’re interested? Regards, Karen

  8. Ken Butler says:

    Hi Karen,
    Thank you for your reply. Mum was indeed Margaret P Ridout and Nan (Gertrude), wife of Clarence Harold. Both Mum and Nan died from dementure at good ages as you can see!
    Any info on Clarence and other family members would be great as no records have been passed down due to a house fire, many years ago.

  9. Prevaricat says:

    Hi Ken
    Happy to send you what I have…. send me a quick email at: and I will get back to you asap ๐Ÿ™‚
    Cheer, Karen

  10. Vanessa says:

    What a rich and detailed blog! I have enjoyed visiting. I have a small thing to share with you – a tiny envelope sent to H.L Orchard, Esq, Clare College in 1868, which I picked up at a stamp fair in Cambridge. Whilst there is no letter in the envelope, there is a message written in the envelope, pleading with HLO (Henry Langhorne Orchard 1843-1921) to get in touch, but no sender’s name. Postmark is Uttoxeter. Do contact me if you’re interested at all or would like a scan for your blog.

    Best wishes

  11. Lee Toniolo says:

    This is amazing. Although I cannot seem to trace our Ridout family beyond Frederick J Ridout of Holnest Dorset. Anyone have any info on this Ridout. He went to America around 1845 Shows up in census records in Ohio around 1850 and has son Chauncey Ridout who is my 3times great grandfather

    • Lee Toniolo says:

      Im sorry he is 4 times great grandfather

      • Prevaricat says:

        Hi Lee…

        I would say that it’s possible that your chap, Frederick James Ridout was bp. in Holnest on the 2nd February 1824 and was the son of John Ridout (1791-1858) and his wife Ann (nee BRADLEY; ~1810-1864). John was a gamekeeper; in the 1841 census the family were living in Puddletown in Dorset.

        Cheers, Karen

    • Prevaricat says:

      Hi Lee

      I’ll have a look in my own records and see what I can find ๐Ÿ™‚ Cheers, Karen

  12. Melanie Patt-Corner says:

    Hi Karen,
    Another Ridout descendant here, I am a 3rd cousin to Orlando Ridout in Annapolis. So I think we are related to you, according to your blog. I just found you online because I was looking up John Ridout the 1st, who married Mary Ogle. They are my 4th Great grandparents, and as I am 64 now, I think we are the same age and same amount of generations down the line. Nothing to add, other than that I live near Washington, D.C., but we also have a tiny house in Dorset.

    • Prevaricat says:

      Hi Melanie

      What a nice surprise; thanks for dropping by! I met Orlando (Lanny) when he came over in 2004 but we don’t correspond any more, as you might imagine. Yes, you and I definitely are related but, off the top of my head, I don’t know the exact relationship. Where my Ridout branch joins the larger tree has been the main focus of my research over the years, hence this blog, book, yDNA study etc. Always a quest!

      You’re right about ages – I’m 66. We are both on Facebook (you were easy to find) and we evidently both love Dorset. I grew up, for a while, in Weymouth but had no idea at all then of my deep Dorset roots. Now I go occasionally to have a few days in Dorchester or Sherborne and I love it. Unfortunately I live in Wales so don’t get down there too often. Where is your ‘little house’? I’d love to hear more….


      • Melanie Patt-Corner says:

        Hi Karen,
        I’ve been away on holiday and just got back. Our house in Dorset is in Cerne Abbas. My Ridout ancestor came from Sherborne. John Ridout the 1st, born in Sherborne in 1732. Died in Annapolis. I haven’t seen Orlando in many years, although I ran into his daughter at a special gathering at Whitehall in Annapolis about 4 years ago.

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