My x3 great uncles: Charles and Samuel Ridout

My x3 great grandfather John Ridout did not grow up alone. The registers of Sherborne Abbey record the following baptisms and burials of his siblings:

19th July 1783 James, child of John & Susanna buried
25th December 1787 Charles, child of John & Susanna christened
25th December 1790 Sarah, child of John & Susanna christened
2nd December 1792 Ann, child of John & Susanna buried
29th June 1793 Alice, child of John & Susanna baptised
23rd January 1796 Samuel, child of John & Susanna christened

John’s sister Alice died just three months before her brother’s wedding, in 1807. How she had lived her fourteen short years I will never know, any more than I know what caused her untimely death. Neither can I prove for sure that James and Ann even were children of my x4 great grandparents, but I’ve not found another couple called John and Susanna Ridout in Sherborne.

Charles Ridout - man of mystery

For some reason, the name Charles is always unlucky for me, genealogically speaking; such men in my family either die young or disappear without trace from the records. Unlike John, who I feel I know so well, his brother Charles is a complete mystery. He was baptised on 25th December 1787. There seems to be a division of opinion as to why couples married or had their children baptised on Christmas Day. Was it a family tradition or just a holiday when relatives were likely to have time off? Whatever the reason, Sarah followed suit in 1790, and then promptly ‘disappeared’.

Charles seems to have stayed in town and married in the Abbey on 12th April 1815. His bride, Mary was, as I have said in an earlier post, the daughter of William and Mary Towers (neé Cottell). William was the editor of the Sherborne Mercury. Mary’s brother William became a watchmaker in Wincanton and, according to the Bridgewater Advertiser, died aged 44, at his mother’s home in Sherborne on the 6th May 1833. Mary’s sister Ann appeared in the 1841 census as a patient at the Forston Lunatic Asylum in Charminster.

At some point in their marriage, Charles and his wife moved to Bath because, ten years apart, this is where both of them died. The couple worshipped at the Argyle Independent Chapel in Grove Street, Bathwick (Congregationalist) and were buried at Snow Hill by the chapel’s most eminent divine The Reverend William Jay, who preached there from 1790 to 1853. So, I know the dates when Charles was ‘hatched matched and despatched’ but not a lot else. Maybe he was a man who worked with wood, like John, or maybe not.

When Charles’ wife Mary died, in August 1822, the address recorded was ‘Oak Street’, a short road of terraced houses on the south side of the river. So, the couple were together seven years but I couldn’t find any suitable infant baptisms in the church registers of Sherborne or Bath. At the time of his own death in March 1832, Charles’ address was ‘Orange Court’, a small area of housing that had been behind the City Market, off Orange Grove. I was unable to find any evidence of Charles having paid rates in Bath but, given the number of rate books extant, this is still a work in progress. He is not recorded in the few existing early street or trade directories either but these tended mainly to record the nobility, professional classes and clergy, rather than the general populace. When one has very little, one clutches at straws. ‘Mr’ Charles Ridout’s death was reported in the local press, sitting amidst no fewer than three ‘Esquires’, one ‘Surgeon’, one ‘Lady’ and four ‘Reverends’. I choose to think that this means Charles was a gentleman!

Report of the death of Charles Ridout 1832

John Ridout’s younger brother Samuel, went to London at some point and married Elizabeth Radnor, a lady from Diddlebury, Shropshire. Rather mysteriously, the couple called the banns but then didn’t marry until two years later! Originally their wedding should have been within a very few days of 22nd December 1822, but it seems that they may not have turned up to the church on two of the three Sundays. Helpfully however, the pre-banns indicated that Samuel was lodging at 7 Portman Square and Elizabeth at 7 Little Ebury Street, both in what is now the London borough of Westminster. In 1824, the wedding finally took place at St Marylebone on 19th July. However, before he married, Samuel witnessed the marriage of John Arkill and Eliza Richards. In turn the newly married couple then witnessed Samuel and Elizabeth’s marriage. Were these just strangers helping one another out or did the parties know one another? Read on!

Marriage of Samuel and Elizabeth 1824

Samuel and Elizabeth had their first two children baptised at St Marylebone: William was born at Edgware Road on the 30th April 1825 (baptised 3rd August) and George was born at Seymour Place on the 28th February 1828 (baptised 7th June).

Although there have been UK censuses since 1801, most of them before 1841 are of little use to a family historian who wants names because they were more about collecting data such as the numbers of men, women and children or the different occupations in any one area. Fortunately though, Marylebone is one of the few districts in which the enumerator recorded names as well as numbers. In 1831, there was an entry: ‘Ridout’, ‘Brown Street, Marylebone’. Not much, but exciting all the same. Samuel didn’t make it to a trade directory until 1833 when Robson’s London Directory listed ‘Samuel Ridout, 22 Brown Street, Cheesemonger’. This came as a bit of a surprise because the children’s baptisms and 1841 and 1851 censuses suggested that Samuel had been a carpenter, joiner or builder. Why on earth was he a cheesemonger? Was this a mistake or was this another man? In a bit of lateral thinking, I searched for information on John Arkill. The London Gazette of 14th November 1834 recorded the details of the Court for Insolvent Debtors, held at 9am on the 8th December at Portugal Street, off the Tottenham Court Road: “John Arkill, late of No. 2, Tottenham-Street, Tottenham Court-Road, Middlesex, formerly a Cheesemonger, Pork-Butcher and French Polisher, and latterly a Dealer in Coals, Wood, Oysters, Butter, and Cheese”. So, is it a coincidence that John Arkill and Samuel Ridout had, at some point in their lives, both been cheesemongers? I think not. I think they were friends that day when they witnessed each other’s marriages and possibly even worked together for a while, in the 1830s perhaps.

Samuel and his family moved to Dorking in Surrey where two more children were baptised together on the 5th July 1837 at the West Street Independent Chapel (Congregationalist) by the Reverend Richard Connebee: Alfred had been born in Marylebone on the 10th April 1831 and Alice had been born in St George’s Westminster on the 26th December 1834. So, for some reason, Samuel and Elizabeth had moved away from the established church and become non-conformists like both John and Charles Ridout. In due course, the family moved back to London where perhaps their descendants may live there still. The three boys all worked in the carpentry trade. Alice died unmarried in 1871.

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A genealogical miscellany discovered during a short trip to Sherborne

Last week I was fortunate enough to visit Sherborne, a lovely Dorset town and home of my mother’s paternal family, the Ridouts. In antiquity, Sherborne and nearby Blandford were the main centre for Ridouts and hence there were rich pickings in local repositories. Here is a small selection…

A Dorset farthing trade token – William Rideout of Sherborne, 1666 [Sherborne Museum]

Obverse of 17th century trade token 'William Rideout'

Reverse of 17th century trade token 'of Sherborne 1666'

In the seventeenth century, English coins were made of silver but, as the value of this metal increased, the coins became smaller until they were of no practical use. Poor people who may have wished to purchase goods for a small sum of money had no means by which to do so and hence, in response to a demand for low denomination coinage, farthing tokens, sometimes made of lead, were illegally struck by parish officials and local traders in probably every village and town in England. However, on 16th August 1672, King Charles II issued a proclamation which called in these tokens to be replaced with farthings and halfpennies of the realm made from copper.

That he struck his own token suggests that William Rideout was a man with something to sell, a local tradesman in Sherborne town perhaps. I cannot know for sure but perhaps William Rideout was the thirty-nine year old great-grandson of William Ridout of Hyle. If so then he was married to a lady called Frances and may, like his ancestors before him, have continued farming at Hyle. Unfortunately, William’s father died intestate in 1630 at just twenty-eight years of age and therefore we do not know what the disposition of his estate would have been. Perhaps William became a merchant instead of a farmer or perhaps this man is unrelated.

Sherborne Militia Ballots List c. November 1798, Westbury tithing [Dorset Local History Centre]

Record number LA/3/9/16 at the Dorset Local History Centre showed the following entry on a militia ballot list of 1798 for the tithing of Westbury in Sherborne:

Name Height and notes
Ridout, John co/sv*

*‘crossed out’ and ‘served’

The 1757 Militia Act directed that militia regiments be re-established in England and Wales. Since it was unlikely that sufficient volunteers would come forward, a type of conscription was introduced in which parishes made lists of adult males and held ballots to choose those for compulsory service. Militia Ballot Lists contained the names of all men between the ages of eighteen and forty-five eligible for the ballot. By the early 1760s the majority of counties in England and Wales held annual ballots requiring yearly lists of names to be compiled. The Dorset lists contain variable information, in some cases the name of the man, height, marital status, number of children, infirmities or previous service, any of which might allow exemption.

The Westbury tithing of Sherborne included Hyle Farm, West Mill and other fields and houses in the area including Acreman Street. John Ridout would have been between 18 and 45 years to have been included in this list and clearly he had served in the militia before. My x4 great grandfather, John Ridout was baptised in 1753 – he would therefore have been forty-three. Could this have been him?

A Historic Guide to the Almshouse of St John the Baptist and St John the Evangelist by Charles Herbert Mayo 1933 [Sherborne Library]

The almshouse in Sherborne was licensed by Henry VI on 11th July 1437 and was designed to house ‘twelve pore feeble and ympotent old men and five pore feeble and ympotent old women’. Today it still provides a wonderful home for eighteen residents, although the ratio of women to men has changed, there being but one man! In the earliest days of almshouse history, even prior to 1437, Hyle Farm was gifted by its owner and provided an income to the charity.

In Mayos’ book there is the following ‘survey of tenancies by indenture 1581’:

William Couth, a lease for sixty years from 24th September., 8 Eliz., consisting of a farm called The Hyle, Colverhaye 12a (acres)., Hyle mead 5a., Deep lease 6a., Hyle hame 3r (roods) 1a. Rent £2-6s-8d.

This means that in the eighth year of the reign of Elizabeth I (1581), William Couth took out a lease on Hyle Farm, also the Colverhaye (or Culverhouse – a pigeon or dove house) Hyle meadow and other land. The total area was twenty four acres and three roods (24 ¾ acres) and the annual rent was roughly equivalent to £350 in 2005.

A later reference to Hyle farm says that in 1836, William Humber was a yearly tenant of the farmhouse, garden and piece in front, plus a close of meadow called Home Ground behind the farmhouse (3 acres, 3 roods and 8 perches) plus Hyle Cow leaze adjoining part of Home Close (6 acres, 2 roods, 32 perches) and others.

Clearly, Ridouts were not tenants of Hyle Farm as early as 1581 or as late as 1836, which leaves just two hundred and fifty-five years in between to account for!

Map of the Bishop of Salisbury’s Sherborne castle estate c. 1570 [Sherborne School estate office]

Section of 1570 Sherborne map showing West Mill (arrowed)

Quite by happenstance, whilst chatting to an archivist in Sherborne school office, we noticed a framed print of a very old map. Further investigation has revealed that the original map was dated between 12 Eliz I (1569/70) and 1574 and was acquired by the British Museum in 1964 having been in other private and royal collections beforehand. It was described in the seventeenth century as being a ‘Description of certain Mannours in Somersetshire’, although the map is almost entirely of Sherborne.

Rather quirkily, the map is upside down in that north is at the bottom but the labelling is the other way about which is a bit disorienting. It was just possible to make out what we now call West Mill, labelled ‘Couthes Mill’ (arrowed on the picture). The tenant may well have been either William, Margaret or John, all of whom are mentioned in various records but pre-dated the William Couth in 1581, mentioned above. The text around Hyle Farm is too hard to read on this scanned copy of the original map (which I hope to see when I go to London next week).

Addendum…

Today I received word of the following item in the Sherborne Mercury, dated 8th May 1780, regarding the auction of Ridout’s Mill on the death of miller and baker, George Ridout. Below is a transcription…

Sherborne Mercury 8th May 1780

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